A place to share YOUR boat building storyGlen-L Marine Designs - 9152 Rosecrans Ave. - Bellflower, CA 90706 In this issue
GLEN-L Update
Glass Bottom BoatImagine a roomy little rowboat, two small children looking in a viewer through the bottom and shrieking as a fish comes into view. There are probably other reasons for building our GLASS BOTTOM, but the laughter of children is probably the best. GLASS BOTTOM has been in the works for some time, but has been pushed to the background because of other projects. But now she's HERE! See our Online Store for more information about this great little design. New Affiliate!
by Gayle Brantuk
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Photos sent in since the last WebLetter... |
From the Boatbuilder Connection: Sailboats/Minuet
Larry Haff
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From the Boatbuilder Connection
Bill Edmundson Over in Sailboats "Minuet - "Sweet Pea" Robert (RAZOPP) and others were complaining about time to work on their boats. Dale (Smith Brother) suggested that boat building is "7000 20-minute" tasks. Robert said he'd have to settle for 15 minutes at a time. Whatever you do, Don't do "Honey Do's" with your 15 minutes. They will just come up with another. They want the time, not the activity. I tried for things that aren't too dirty or messy. I'm sure you will add to this list! Things To-Do with 15 Minutes
Have fun, Bill |
Or, 26... Make a list. |
Many of you may remember a Glen-L Questionnaire that was emailed to you, oh, about a year ago! Well, we were so overwhelmed with the results that it has taken us a long time to go through them. I still have hundreds more to read, but I do have some results to share. By the way, I learned the hard way to only do a survey in automated format! Live and learn, right?
When I say we were overwhelmed with the response, I mean that in a good way. It is very rewarding to have so many of you take your precious time to provide us feedback. Many of you were very appreciative that we even asked! I must say, Glen-L clients are the best! You really are more than "customers", more comparable to an extended family.
Now, back to the survey. A couple of questions had to do with whom else you buy products from and who you see as Glen-L's primary competitor. The answer to both was Clarkcraft. We would agree they are a primary competitor, however, they also sell our plans and books. We are not plan brokers, we are designers - all of our designs are done in-house. Depending on your perspective, this can be a good thing or a negative thing. We pride ourselves in our customer service, so we have always felt that if we sold other designers' plans; we would not be able to provide the same service. We know our designs because we designed them...
We also asked how many Glen-L boats and boats from other designers that you have built. Well, bottom line is that the majority of you have not built ANY boats! Come on folks - stop dreaming and start doing! Which brings me to another question and that is what prompted you to want to build a boat. Guess what one of the most popular answers is so far? "I've always wanted to build a boat/it's a dream of mine!" As I said, let's get going folks!!! Actually, the most popular reason is cost savings. I was also surprised to hear the word "challenge" used frequently. I hadn't considered describing boat building as a challenge for marketing purposes, but you never know!
I also asked about products you would like us to carry. Many suggested CAD (Computer Aided Design). Unless someone out there has a solution I'm not aware of, our designs are all hand drawn (over 250), and converting them to CAD would not be feasible for us - that we know of. Many suggested using the Boatbuilder Forum as Support - we are considering this one in the near future. Many other ideas were given and we have implemented some and have many more to consider. Keep the suggestions coming - we are always open to making our products, website and the rest the best it can be.
The majority of you (so far) are between the ages of 41-50-as I suspected, the baby boomers! Another interesting fact - we have a LOT of Canadian clients! Obviously, most are from the US, but of all of the other countries, Canada has the most with Australia coming in a close second... kewl.
The majority of our clients are retired - that makes sense! The most popular occupation is Engineer. The most popular hobby? Woodworking (shock), with boatbuilding a close second! Surprise, surprise. Fishing was a close third!
The majority seems to be happy with our products, pricing and customer service. That is very important to us as we feel it sets us apart from our competition. Another comment that we received quite a few times is that our plans look old. That's right! Many of our plans are old, but we prefer to call them "classic" (*smile). Whatcha gonna do - we have been in business since 1953. We are who we are...
That is a brief re-cap for now. I will continue in a future article and let you know some of the interesting comments that we have received as well as other suggestions. We are really learning from you all and once again, appreciate your help and response.
"The more I learn, the more I find I don't know!"Making a fairing board by Capt Patrick McCrary.
The following was taken from the APA (American Plywood Association) Blog
Posted At : 4:33 PM | Posted By : Ray Clark
Related Categories: Help Desk, Plywood, Siding
One of the questions I get every so often at our Help Desk is whether it's okay to use Marine-grade plywood as an exterior siding product.
At first glance, Marine-grade plywood would seem to be an excellent panel to specify for a siding application. After all, it is intended for boat building; so one would think it must be decay resistant, have a superior glue bond, and perhaps hold up to weathering better than other plywood panel products. This, however, is a common misconception.
1. Although Marine-grade plywood is uniquely suited for many marine applications, it is not treated to enhance its resistance to decay.
2. The glue used in Marine-grade plywood is not unique. Marine-grade plywood has the same Exterior Exposure Durability and uses the same type glue as other Exterior panels including APA Rated Siding panels. All Exterior panels have a fully waterproof bond and are designed for applications subject to long-term exposure to the weather or moisture.
3. The sanded face of Marine-grade plywood may also not be the best choice from a visual standpoint. Face checking, due to weathering, is much more noticeable in a sanded veneer panel. A check is a naturally occurring lengthwise separation between wood fibers parallel to the grain of the veneer in a plywood panel. It occurs normally in solid or laminated wood products exposed to weather and can be expected on non-overlaid veneered panels, even when the panels are finished with paint or stain. APA Rated Siding panels have a textured face veneer and the checks tend to blend with the textured veneer resulting in a more visually appealing surface.
4. Marine-grade plywood is also considerably more expensive than APA Rated Siding products.
APA Rated Siding is available in various wood species, in a broad range of appearance face grades, and in several surface pattern and texture combinations. With such a variety, architects can specify a siding product that expresses thier design intent. Have a favorite APA Rated Siding product? Click on the "Comments" link below to tell us about it!
From: Gary Solmi
Subject: Console Skiff Photos
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006
I have posted the final pictures of my Console Skiff. #28
thru #44.
Web site:
www.wizzards.net/ycranch/skiff.html
Subject: Thanks!
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006
Hi Gayle, Alex & Jack saw the ad in WoodenBoat magazine last night and were totally thrilled. They're pretty sure that they are the two most famous people in America now. Thought you might like to see both boats in action. The weather's been pretty horrible here this spring, but we managed to pop them in the water for a few minutes.
Best to you & the team,
Marc E Bourassa
Subject: Update to Minuet - Robert Zopp
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006
I just wanted to update you on the progress of my Minuet, "Sweet Pea."
First, I have been spending too much time on the Boat Builder Connection and not enough time actually building my boat. It definitely helps keep the dream alive by "talking" with others about our project. They are also pretty good at prodding you along to keep things moving. I appreciate you offering us that forum as a place to discuss your great designs.
To date on the Minuet, I have completed assembly of all the
frames, transom, stem and breasthook. I have also completed
the building form and I am about to begin "hanging the
frames."
I have updated the photos on my yahoo photo log as
well.
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/razopp/my_photos
Thanks again,
Robert Zopp
Subject: cool SK-169 pictures
Date: Mon, 15 May 2006
Here's a few cool Glen L pictures from last summer's Scioto Riverfest event in Columbus, Ohio.
Kevin M. Klosterman
Subject: Reliant project
Date: Mon, 15 May 2006
This is my self-promoting email (somebody has to do it) to
tell you that we have the new and improved boat website done.
All new format (high speed connection is best) includes the
movie made while turning the boat upright in the shop. The
boat weighed about 10,000 lbs at that time. When you have
time take a look.
Thanks,
Jim Benge
www.whitmar.org
Subject: Vera Cruise Registration
Date: Wed, 10 May 2006
Gayle, Barry, Here's a
couple pictures of the Vera Cruise frame kit arriving
home.
In a couple months I'll have some electrical assemblies
complete. I'll send some more photos then. Here is my
project registration info.
Design: Vera Cruise
Builder: David Ellingson
Location: Woodstock, IL
Status: I've been working on my Vera Cruise several
months, sort of in backwards order. I've been working on
the electrical/electronics, accumulating hardware, etc. so
that when the hull is complete all this other stuff will be
complete and ready to install. I bought the frame kit now
because Allyn is retiring and it won't be available in
the future. But I won’t be able to start on the hull
for a year or two.
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted
on Wednesday, May 3, 2006
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firstname: John C
lastname: Davis
Comments: I've seen your ad for years and as a mid grade Army Officer am considering embarking on my sworn duty to begin building a boat in my spare time... just kidding about the sworn duty part.
Subject: Length of Boat and Trailer?
Date: Thu, 4 May 2006
Greetings,
I am interested in building the Monte Carlo runabout and the
5000 series trailer. I know that the Monte Carlo is
24'-6" L.O.A. but I need additional info on the
trailer. What is the overall length from the farthest point
at the stern to the tip of the hitch with the boat on the
trailer? Before I build a shop/garage, I want to be sure I
have room to park the boat in the garage with the door
closed.
Thanks,
Richard Rucker
Date: Thu, 04 May 2006
Subject: Re: Glen-L Order
To: Gayle Brantuk
Thanks for making the process as painless as possible. I have
designs from several of your competitors and your customer
service is by far much better. It's nice to see that in
today's fast paced business world you folks still
understand what it means to provide service.
Mike
Subject: Glen-L profile
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006
Hi Barry, Gayle and other Staff
Just a thought.
Larry Grable made an interesting comment in his letter about
meeting Allyn Perry and the fact that many of us will never
meet the Glen-L staff. May I suggest that you devote a
newsletter to profiling your company and staff or better
still this could be permanently included in your website
somewhere. Perhaps a photo and short article on each staff
member and some photos of your operations there.
Who is Barry Witt?
Glen's son, webMASTER, company
photographer, question answerer, the guy who puts the
WebLetter together.
Who is Gayle?
The female person who sits to the right of
Barry, his sister, in charge of advertising, order taker,
pretty voice on the phone and the expert on our new computer
program. See: WebLetter 3
GLEN PHOTO Who is the older guy sitting at a desk in one of
your recent news letters or on your website somewhere?
Glen Lewis Witt... Glen-L.
Are there any other staff in the organization?
Darla Schooler
Alfredo Rodriguez
And, of course, Allyn Perry
Who actually is the brains behind your designs?
As I look around the room... I'm not
sure. Actually, the "brains" would be Glen. Our
designs are probably the most complete in the industry,
because that's the way Glen wants it.
What is the philosophy and thinking behind your designs and
company?
About
Glen-L
What does the name "Glen-L" mean and where did it
come from?
See "old guy sitting at a desk",
above.
Perhaps the large number of responses to Allyn Perry's
retirement add support to my suggestion. My first thoughts
were that there would now be this factory full of high tech
profile cutting equipment lying idle. Based on your
responses, I actually doubt if that is the case.
On that note, I personally find building and setting up the frames one of the more rewarding and interesting aspects of the whole building project. Even lofting out the frames oneself has benefits for the builder as frames can be moved slightly to accommodate slight adjustments to bulkhead and furniture positions etc. (many designers would cringe at that thought I know - bless them)
Love the new look of the newsletter and appreciate all the
effort that has gone into developing it. Perhaps the 1953
cover girl picture should be reintroduced as your mascot or
something - it's a beauty. Can you trace the lady and is
she still alive. A profile on her life may be of general
interest also. Who knows she may well be the current bosses
grandmother or something fascinating like that.
The "girl" was a model. The
photographer was Bill Holman, a friend of Glen's. She
arrived for the shoot in Bill's garage with a boy friend.
I believe both Bill and Glen were impressed by the young
lady, but Glen has no knowledge of her personal
history.
Best regards to all
Roy Gadischke
Australia
Speaking of Allyn leaving Glen-L...
Announcing the FIRST EVER Glen-L
Teleseminar, with Allyn Perry:
"Help! How Do I Build a Boat
WITHOUT a Frame Kit?"
Click here for details
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006
From: Gary Williams
Subject: Allyn
Hi folks,
I know I've written you more than once, going on and on about how much I love the little Amp Eater prototype I bought from you, and praising Allyn's skillful and thoughtful workmanship on the boat. But on the occasion of his retirement, and inspired by Larry Grable's tribute in Webletter 77, I can't resist writing one more time to ask that you pass on my personal best wishes to Allyn and his wife.
Not many of us will leave the kind of legacy he leaves behind. We have Glen and the rest of you in the family and crew to thank for the thousands of boats built around the world, but the fortunate few of us who have one hand crafted by Allyn have a special treasure. He only needed to build a prototype to prove a design, but he built a real boat - one that any professional builder would be proud of.
Fair winds, Allyn.
Thanks again,
Gary
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted
on Thursday, April 27, 2006
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firstname: Stephen
lastname: Wagner
Comments: I came across your ad last night when reading HANDY
Magazine. I just had to take a look at the website. I have
looked at quite a bit and I nearly fell off the chair when I
saw the Malahini. I, as a 16 year old kid, along with my
father built that boat in the mid 60's. The frame design,
from my recollection has changed. I recall there was an
option then for 1/4 or 3/8 plywood bottom. I chose the wrong
one for the use and had leaks almost immediately. We remedied
this by putting exterior runners down the bottom of the hull.
I see you now have them as part of the frame design.
Whatever, it was one of the most rewarding experiences of my
life. I have been a woodworker ever since.
I would love to do a Mahogany boat. Some of those designs are
tempting. It would be a great retirement project. I don't
know if it's still in me though. Thanks, Steve Wagner
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted
on Thursday, April 27, 2006
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firstname: Micah
lastname: DeSchepper
Comments: Great site, and from the sound of it your customers
love your products and service.
Researching now and plan to start on a Zip after the move
next spring to a bigger house.
Look forward to starting that project and sharing many more
with my sons as they age.