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In this issue
GLEN-L Update
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Gathering update: Total coming re. Boatbuilder Connection
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It's amazing what you can find in back copies of the WebLetter. I
didn't remember this at all.
From WebLetter 33: "I thought you might be interested in the
version of the Amp Eater that I built to be both electric and steam
powered. You can see her at http://www.geocities.com/katieanntoo/" ...Roger
Ulsky
There is now a video of the Amp Eater under steam power. It would be
neat to see one of the sailboats, like the Glen-L 17, set up for steam
or electric power.
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Forum outages... A couple of times this last month the Forum was down.
The problem has been solved. It seems we had a program that was backing
up 30MB per day to our server and at 875MB of backups, the server was
full, which caused errors in the Forum.
Editor
Building the Glen-L Whitehall
by Dave Gillette
Early in 2004, I decided to pursue boat
building as a fill in pastime, primarily for the downtime between our
carpentry jobs. My wife Sue and I are finish carpenters, and especially
during the winter months, find ourselves with time to kill. Having dealt
with Glen-L back in the 70's while considering the building of the
Klondike, they were the first place I checked for plans. Not wanting to
jump into power boats right away, I was immediately drawn to the
Whitehall; the lines are incredible, the size was appropriate for towing
with practically any car, and with the multiple rowing stations, the
possibility of longer boat rides with multiple persons to share the work
seemed like an added benefit.
I sent for the plans, looked them over for a
day or so, and ordered 200 bd. Ft of 4/4 Philippine mahogany and a couple
of 16 ft planks of 8/4 for the heavier parts. While this order was being
processed, my usual supplier for building materials was delivering the
2" x 6" stock for the building jig.
Continue
Feedback: Sculling Skiff
by Mike Van Susteren
The sculling skiff was completed and launched
15 months after I started the project (lots of down periods, believe me).
I built the oars myself also which was a very interesting project in
itself.
So how does it work? It's really, really
cool! Pretty shaky at first, maybe 1 in 10 strokes were any good, but by
day 3 things started coming together. Wow, it glides so smoothly and
every stroke seems so efficient, it is almost effortless to move swiftly
across the water. It takes loads of concentration to keep it straight and
to keep all of your movements coordinated but when you do it is very
rewarding. I haven't tried getting into it from deep water and not
sure that is possible, but will try that soon enough. It is very stable
feeling when the oars are out, but if you pull them in and you're not
moving... then it's a different story.
The boat with the seat arrangement weighs in at
55 lbs and the oars are 4.5 lbs each. A very rewarding project.
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Memories: Classic runabouts and my brother Elbert
by Glen Witt
It was the depression and no one had extra
money to spend, but some people still managed to build boats. My
brother, Elbert, found a plan for an outboard powered, planked
runabout, called "Buzzer" in a boating magazine and decided
he would build it. I thought it was a great idea, Elbert had always
worked on cars, his hotrods drew many speeding citations, but I had
never seen him take an interest in woodworking. As the younger brother
and still in school I knew my big brother could do anything.
There were, however, a few minor obstacles.
First, Elbert had no money; if he had a dime he'd spend fifteen
cents. He was only working part time and the plant he worked at was
slow. Elbert had just been married and one other minor problem, the
small rental he lived in didn't have a place to build a boat.
Fools rush in...
Nonetheless Elbert started to build the
boat. He found oak table leaves at junkyards, available at that time
for next to nothing. They were varnished and some were doweled
together from narrow wood but most were of better stock than is
available today. It took time and some elbow grease to make the leaves
usable for building the boat frames, but time was available, money was
not.
There were delays in the building as parts
were scrounged and for some reason building took a hiatus after the
frames were built. But eventually construction was resumed in a garage
at our parent's house where I lived and just a few blocks from
where Elbert resided. The frames were set up and somehow the
mahogany planking was obtained. In those days four quarter stock in
the rough was much greater in thickness than 1" and the
lumberyard was able to obtain two planks almost 3/8" in thickness
from the four quarters stock.
Elbert turned out to be an excellent
woodworker, exacting and meticulous. When he fitted two pieces of wood
they were not just good, but perfect, ...or do it again. This was a
time when portable power tools were a rarity and surely not in the
venue of an amateur boat builder. This meant all screw holes had to be
drilled and countersunk with a little hand-powered drill. No grabbing
for that powered saber saw to cut out the planks, a keyhole saw was
required. Ever tried using one of those things and make long true
vertical cuts? Think of drilling all those holes and driving the
jillions of screws by hand. And, of course the screws were slot headed
and if the driver slipped out, a plank could be marred. There
wasn't a magic filler. A scarred plank remained that way or was
replaced. Elbert didn't tolerate blemishes, so it was replaced but
after the first time, slips with tools ceased.
Decent adhesives were also lacking at the
time, although the boats of that day were not intended for solid
bonded junctions. We used a flexible mastic called
"Aviation Adhesive", which was developed for seaplane floats.
It was a sticky gooey mess, never dried hard, and was hell to keep off
those beautiful mahogany planks.
The "Buzzer" called for batten
seam construction, 3/8" planking with junctions backed with
battens. The planks were fastened over the batten junction with screws
spaced about 4" apart and along each of the frames. Elbert used
blind fasteners along the seams; the screws were driven from the
inside through the batten and into the planks. This was a critical
situation. All the holding power of the screws was required but the
tip of the screw could not project through the planking exterior.
Needless to say his didn't. All screws driven from the exterior
were counterbored and bunged with a matching grain aligned plug cut
from the scrap of the plank being worked on. All screws were in
alignment and evenly spaced. And not just by guess and by gosh or even
measurements, these screws were precisely spaced with dividers. And
yes, even on the inside where most would never be seen.
Fitting the planks was tedious to say the
least. At a glance a mahogany planked boat appears to have strakes
(planks) of uniform widths. This is far from the fact; the side planks
on a boat with flare at the bow and tumble home at the transom will
have somewhat of an elongated "s" shape. The strakes are
equally spaced at each frame but hardly of uniform width. This means
each individual plank must be cut from wide stock or joined. Wide
mahogany planks were more plentiful then than now, so the joints on
"Buzzer" were few. Of course the junctions couldn't be
simply butted together and backed with a butt block. The junctions
were shaped similar to the letter "Z laid on it's side. Try
fitting that with hand tools, where the strake had to be removed each
time trimming was required. Of course Elbert's junctions were such
that the fit left nary a gap, you couldn't even slip a piece of
paper between the joining parts.
All strakes on one side of the boat were
color matched as close as possible. A plank was laid on the ground and
the one fitting adjacent to it was selected with care to be as close
to the same color as possible. It was possible to compensate for off
color strakes with stains but not on this boat.
After planking and plugging screw holes, the
boat was hand sanded (remember no portable power tools) with
progressively finer grit sandpaper. Then it was wet down to raise the
grain and the process repeated until the surface was "like a new
born baby's..."
The mahogany hull sides were filler-stained
(Chris Craft red, of course) with a paste-like product. You smeared it
on and rubbed it crossways into the grain, removing the excess before
it dried. Messy, but it filled the rather open grain of the mahogany
and gave it the deep rich tone desired.
Then the varnish... The work area was first
cleaned everywhere, even the rafters were swept down. Then we waited
for the dust to settle and cleaned again. The area around the hull was
wet down and the hull surface thoroughly cleaned with a tack rag.
Elbert bought the best brush he could afford and the finest varnish of
the day. Nothing but the best for this "Buzzer". A thin coat
of varnish was carefully flowed on, followed with another coat of
out-of-the-can. How many coats were used? I really don't know, but
it was a lot more than ten. Elbert allowed me to sand after each coat.
Rotten rock, a pumice type product applied with a felt pad, was used.
It left no scratches but it took a lot of rubbing to smooth out the
varnished surface. It became quite obvious why Elbert allowed me to do
this task; I was cheap labor and dared not make a mistake. So he
applied varnish and I took it off until the surface showed nary a
blemish. Why finish a boat this way? A neighbor worked as a piano
builder and this was the way they were finished. If the finish was
good enough for a piano it was just about good enough for
"Buzzer".
Finishing up the craft was more or less
routine. Oh, it was some chore to build the brass chrome finished
cutwater and a few more goodies, but in general all was going well.
The boat did look beautiful and was a real showpiece. Now, for
something to push this gorgeous thing through the water, an outboard
motor.
A new motor was obviously out of the
question; there wasn't enough money to buy a paddle. The details
as to how the motor was obtained are cloudy, but I was allowed to
contribute. One thing about Elbert, when things got tight he was
really nice about getting me in on the action. Anyway, we obtained a
four cylinder Evinrude outboard motor, the largest of the time. This
was the days before electric starts and even of recoil starter ropes.
You wrapped a cord around the flywheel pulley and pulled. This motor
had a compression release that allowed blow by to make the turning
easier, but in truth it took a good foot brace and a mighty tug to
turn the thing over. If it did start, you had a throttle, spark, and
needle valve adjustment to make, and fast.
At this time I was granted a new job. I made
handles for starting cords and made up quite a bunch of spares. For
when the motor did start, Elbert in the excitement, often threw the
cord overboard and we were not about to go back and try to pick it up.
Have you ever been out in the middle of a lake with no way to start
the outboard motor? And I at last had found a task that Elbert
didn't nit pick.
When the motor finally did start, it had a
habit of blowing the tops out of the aluminum cylinders. We were told
that the motor was being run too lean. After three or four pistons
blew, it was discovered there was a cylinder water leak that mixed
with the gasoline and caused an action much like a blowtorch. Problem
solved, but typical of outboards of the day and particularly with this
one, starting the motor was always a problem.
It would be nice to report that
"Buzzer" lived to a ripe old age, but in truth what happened
to the work of art is unknown, although it did provide our families
lots of fun and introduced us to boating.
These ramblings were inspired by the
numerous classic boat photographs we are sent. And they are beautiful.
It reminded me of the trials and tribulations of my first experience
with classic runabouts. Each one of these builders must have had his
own problems, but the finished product proved they too overcome
adversity. The examples sent to us show that "Elbert"
craftsmanship is inherent in many builders. To each of you we can only
say "Man you're good".
Check the photos on the GLEN-L website! See
if the craftsmanship doesn't provide a challenge. Can you do as
well or BETTER? ...can you do an "Elbert" job?
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"The boat seats are complete! They will need some final adjustments
before they are mounted to the flooring. The seats are actually a section
of a 150 year old
church pew from the church I attended as I grew up. I cut the church
pew down into two seat sections and they refinished nicely. I think if
you are out on the water on a Sunday morning it counts as a church
service plus you can have communion anytime you bring along a bottle of
wine! More updates to follow… the end is in site!" ...Rick
“Skip” Canton (Building ZIP)
Row Row Row Your Boat
Consider building a boat you can row. Rowboats are nice to look at.
They can be made simple and functional or elegant and yacht-like.
There are benefits to rowing too. It’s fun and good exercise.
It’s quiet, ecologically sound and rowboats can often get into
places a powered boat cannot go.
So seat yourself
In your rowing boat
Pick up the oars
Take up that stroke
Down the handles,
Lift the blades
Sweep your arms forward
Lower the blades
Slice the water
Take up the strain
Pull with your arms
No pain sir, no gain
Now stroke again
Keep it all even
Straight you will go
I’ll have you believe-n
The hull races forward
Propelled by your stroke
A champion at heart
You’re quite a bloke
Smoothly you glide
As silk on your bottom
Over water and wave
The effort forgotten
On through the tide
By Arm-strong power
Rowing can move you
Many knots per hour
Captain of your ship
Master of your fate
That gleaming craft
Looks like gold-plate
One last suggestion …
Wear your best shades
So you will look cool
While pulling those blades
-ArtDeco
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Tahoe Get-Around
by Rich Coey
I am a member of the Northern California/Lake
Tahoe Chapter of the ACBS. On July 14th my wife and I took our recently
finished Monaco "REMINISCENT" on what they called a get-around
on Lake Tahoe. At the start "THUNDERBIRD" (a 55 foot commuter
with two 1000 hp Allison aircraft engines) came across the lake and met
up with four of us near Meeks Bay. From there we all went clockwise
around the lake making stops joining up with other boats. At the height
of the cruise there were about twenty boats, what a sight! We continued
around until we arrived at the Thunderbird Lodge where the Thunderbird
docked in its boat house. After that we joined a group and continued the
rest of the way around the lake.
We swapped cameras with a couple we met. Their
boat was "RAZZMATAZZ" a 17 foot 1942 Chris-Craft Barrelstern.
All you can see of their boat are bits and pieces as they took these
pictures. It was a great day, and Reminiscent was a big hit, everywhere
we stopped, even among these classic boats.
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A lot of folks can't understand how we came to have an oil
shortage. Well, there's a very simple answer...
Nobody bothered to check the oil. We just didn't know we were
getting low. The reason for that is purely geographical. Our OIL is
located in Alaska, California, Coastal Florida, Coastal Louisiana,
Kansas, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania and Texas... Our DIPSTICKS are located
in Washington, DC.
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Shop Talk: Scarfing Plywood
by Ken Schott
I could not find much info, or pics, on
scarfing plywood in the WebLetters, or any other place for that matter. I
find lots of talk, but pics are worth a thousand words. I wish I had
these pics before I started, it would have saved me a lot of time. I
tried several methods to cut the wide ply scarfs. This is what worked the best for me.
More scarfing stuff...
Joining plywood to make longer sheets
Scarf Sled
Scarfing with a router
Recent email:
Subject: Re: Glen-L Order
Date: 26 July 2007
Hello, I believe I have already on your mailing list. This is my second set of plans from you. The first was a 14' wood runabout I purchased in 1958 when I was a junior in High School and cut everything out in woodshop. I got a B+ on the boat. Not to Shabby for a 16 year old.
Subject: The New Boat
Date: 24 July 2007
From: Ken Schott
The pleasure of owning a boat.
Subject: RE: boat registry
Date: 18 July 2007
Gayle/Barry,
Attached are some pictures of my Imp project. This was
a lot of fun, and I look forward to doing another.
I'm not a pro, but I'm pretty proud of the way this boat came
out. Thanks for the awesome plans, and hopefully one of these pictures
can make your website.
Thanks Again,
Tom Schultz
Deep River, Ct
Photos
Subject: Glen-L Order
Date: 5 July 2007
Hi Gayle, I received the book. Thank you so much. Very good quality,
great customer service and fast shipping: I can't ask for
more!!!!!!!!
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
Daniel Skira
Subject: Re: Glen-L Newsletter
Date: 28 June 2007
Gayle
Thank you very much for the newsletter. It is very good and you are
doing a good job! Keep them coming!
Sincerely,
Robert Roma
Subject: Politics and boatbuilding
Date: Friday, June 29, 2007
Hi
As always I enjoy your new WebLetters and it's fun to read about
other builders, boat shows also. And the pictures, I love the pictures!
In the last WebLetter (90) there is also a link to an anti-Chinese
website. I must say I didn't enjoy this in the same way.
I'm not Chinese, and I don't agree with Chinese government and
their lack of respect for human rights. There are many things I don't
like about Chinese business morality and ethics. But who should throw the
first stone...?
China has passed US when it comes to C02 polution. But on the other hand,
divided by the population, each Chinese citizen polutes 1/8th as much as
the average American. The American people are still the worst poluters in
the world. And the US is constantly vetoing all attempts to make binding
agreements.
China has ocupied Tibet. According to the Arabic world, the US has
occupied Iraq! About 100,000 Iraqis has died since the occupation took
place. The US has also lost military troops, but relativly few compared
to the Iraqi civilian population. But of course the US has a god-given
right to be world police and bomb everybody that has another political
agenda than the present administration, back to the stoneage.
The US government has no respect for human rights when it comes to non-US
citizens, as we have all seen from Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo Bay, and the
procedure of shipping prisoners to "friendly" nations such as
Saudi-Arabia, who have a view of torture that suits the CIA. And the US
is still the only western nation who kills its own citizens in the old
eye-for-an-eye method of the death-penalty. Does this upset you in the
same manner as the anti-Chinese campaign?
The Americans I have met have all been really nice people. I love the
down-to-earth and laid-back attitude, where people can follow there
dreams and wishes. The Chinese and Arab people I have been in contact
with has also been nice. But part of the US foreign policy is in my view
not good. Should the next WebLetter from Glen-L be addressing this issue,
or should we all just leave the subject and concentrate on the one thing
that unites us all?
I love to read and look at pictures of boatbuilding on your site, sent in
from all over the world: New Zealand, Turkey, England, Norway, Chile...
Everybody with a common interest in building boats and enjoying the
freedom to be out on the sea or lake, and no segregation due to political
standpoint, religion or skin color.
I hope you will continue with that, and leave the politics and ranting to
other websites where each of us can express our viewpoints as we please.
It is not my intention to provoke or make anyone angry. As I grow older
the world is no longer black and white. It is a world of colors. But
politics is all about trying to argue in black and white. The tolerance
of other views is low. So to implement a specific political view into the
WebLetter can make some people feel upset. And I hope that was not the
intention. Remember that your WebLetter is a "universal
publication" :)
(Sorry for all the misspellings, too many years since my last
English-lesson. I hope you understand most of it :)
Take care, I wish you all the best.
Regards
Roy Hauge
I had wondered whether I should have put that link in. It wasn't an
anti-Chinese "site", but it was an article critical of China
and asking whether we should continue to do business with China. I have
removed the link from WebLetter 90, but if you're interested, this is
the link. brw
Subject: Tango, Kevin Gough
Date: June 25, 2007
Dear Gayle, Glen & Barry
I'm just about having as much fun as I believe can be had with a
sailboat! My deepest thanks and appreciation for all the effort that must
have gone into designing such a wonderful boat. Spirit has taken on quite
a lot of weather now and has always retained the air of a safe and sturdy
little vessel. Wherever I tie up I am always greeted by comments of how
beautiful she looks. I tell them I got the plans off your website and
built her from scratch and they just look at her with disbelief.
This year I have made a few changes... and I've detailed them on the
website...
http://web.mac.com/kevingough1/iWeb/Spirit/Welcome.html
Thank you and Best Wishes.
Kevin Gough
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