Posted by Fred nc on October 20, 2003 at 20:36:58:
In Reply to: Re: Stretched CABIN SKIFF? posted by Dan on October 14, 2003 at 12:18:16:
Seems like Glen L Marine would be the best
place for someone to "stretch" CABIN SKIFF
like 10%, to a 20 footer and little under
8' beam. Would have to be a winner - and
would continue the Cabin Skiff line, but
then to Cabin Skiff II.
Here's hoping ....
Fred
: Fred - I have. He did a really nice job. He also has stated that he wouldn't do it again.
: I can see how the "transom got smaller" as he stretched it. If you look at a cabin/console skiff, the beam narrows slightly near the transom. If the lines were continued another foot or two, one would want those lines to continue resulting in a narrower transom.
: There is also a commercial builder (www.liteboats.com) that appears to be building cabin skiffs that are 18' long. Although I live about 40 minutes from that company's location, I have not made an effort to visit them. It may be worth a trip.
: This is the fun part of building boats. You can play "what if" with the designs and learn a great deal in the process.
: I would like to hear form Barry regarding any plans to design a larger cabin skiff.
: Dan
:
: : Dan - I recall Ray Macke, when he stretched
: : his Cabin Skiff to 18 or 19, remarking that
: : the "transom got smaller" or perhaps the
: : stern end naturally had to shrink in width
: : or height - to fit in along with rest
: : of hull panels?
: : At the time I didn't understand why the
: : stern of hull would have gotten "narrower"
: : when he stretched hull by 1 or 2 feet.
: : Have you looked at his web site, from when
: : he build Cabin Skiff? He did a nice job
: : indeed.
: : Fred
: : : Simply enlarging the current plans introduces some complications. For example the bottom hull panels are designed to fit nicely on a 4x8 sheet of plywood. Increasing length is one thing. I am current building the console skiff w/bulwarks (same hull as cabin skiff) and adding a foot or two in length seems achievable. Others have done it. I think that increasing width by simply enlarging the current patterns would require the use of panels wider than 4'. How would one do that in a manner that looks good and allows the panel to bend at the same rate as a single thickness panel? It may be possible, but it seems very complicated to me.
: : : I think that increasing the beam would require the designers to engineer a workable solution.
: : : Dan