An Occasional Publication for the Home Boat BuilderGlen-L Marine Designs - 9152 Rosecrans Ave. - Bellflower, CA 90706 In this issue
GLEN-L Update
CS-20It's here, it's here! Well, almost. I know that this design has been eagerly anticipated by many of the readers of our WebLetter. I am the last plan checker and I am almost finished. The CS-20 plans and Patterns will be ready within a week. They will sell for $131.00. We do not yet have prices for the Stitch and Glue or Fiberglass Kits, but they will be posted on the Boat Design Catalog price list within a week. See the online CS-20 Design page for more information. Featured Design: Delta Q, Gypsy and QuestIn parts of the country where there is ready access to rivers and lakes, a houseboat is the ideal form of camping. It offers a movable camp and immediate access to water fun, and because these three designs are trailerable, it is easy to get to the water. These designs offer more stability and carrying capacity than the more common pontoon designs with less draft. The name of the Delta Q, was originally Delta Queen (still is on the plans). It was changed when someone contacted us to say the name was copyrighted. We probably didn't have to change it, but really didn't want to fight about it. The Delta Q was our first houseboat and was featured in Popular Mechanics in 1969. The larger non-trailerable Delta King followed, then the rest of our houseboat line. The Quest and Gypsy offer the trailerability of the Delta Q, but in sizes that are more easily stored and can be pulled with smaller vehicles. See these and the rest of our houseboat designs in our online catalog. Links:Delta Q Photos
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Subject: Hunky Dory with cabin, Lee Walker8-6-03: Please feel free to delete my notes from the project registry, due to fire damage the boat will not be completed. Thanks for your support over the project's duration, I will be selecting a new project soon. Lee WalkerAugust 23, 2004 OK, enough time has passed that I can now tell you what happened, without bursting a vein. I assign no one fault (except myself). When I built my Hunky Dory, I made a very serious assumption, and wrongly so. I ordered 5/4 X 4" CVG (clear vertical grain fir) from my local lumber yard. The wood I got looked great to me, and I used it for everything from frames, to chines, motorwell framing, transom, splash guards, and gunnel trim. The boat was looking pretty good. I got a group of friends and family together and we lugged her out of the shop, turned her over and all stood around and discussed her finer points. The feeling of pride was enough to justify the 3 years and a couple thousand dollar investment. We had a few beers, my lovely wife fixed a fine barbecue, and we all told fishing stories, and discussed the many benefits of the "dory". I made arrangements for the local people to stop by on Saturday and help me lift her onto the trailer. I could hardly stand to go to work Friday, but managed by staying completely away from the shop and boat. Saturday morning bloomed bright and sunny, the neighbors stopped over and bummed cups of coffee. It was time, a quick trip to the shop and there she was in all her -----glory? The frames, the chine strips, the splash guard, the majority of the CVG material had warped and split BEYOND REPAIR. All points of contact were screwed and glued, but the material still split (yes I did pilot drill the screws). This was as close as I have come to crying since my wife and I fell off the roof (another story)... I had not asked, actually did not know to ask; but in this area Hemlock is sold as fir. I had assumed that fir CVG was Douglas fir, it was not, it was Hemlock. I have since been informed that if I had turned the boat over in the shop, and painted the interior with any UV protecting paint or stain before exposing it to sunlight I would not have had the problem. As near as I can tell, I had about $2,100.00 in: plans, CVG, marine plywood, epoxy, glass cloth, paint (an off-white with a touch of forest green), screws, nuts, bolts, etc. My ships log indicated about 120 hours logged to the project. In my last notes (in the Project Registry), I noted that fire damage was involved, the attached picture shows the "fire damage". I am planning on another project starting this winter, I have not decided which project, but I WILL DO MORE RESEARCH THIS TIME.
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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 4:28 am
Post subject: To Dream of Building a Boat!
I have recently been corresponding via several private messages with Fritz, another forum member here, who is also planning on building a Zip. We got into somewhat of a discussion about getting the boat onto the water to PROVE that we can do this, to our wives and our friends. I got onto somewhat of a rant about this subject and then I thought that I should post it on the forum rather than just in a private message to one other member. I got to thinking that if Fritz and I had experienced this one thing, I'd be willing to bet that all the forum members here have had an almost exact experience.
The boat was launched for testing on 8/29. The boat performed extremely well. The 50 hp Mercury is more than enough power for this boat. In fact, I think it is too much power for most users of this boat. With 1, 2 or 3 people on board, I would say that a 35 or 40 hp outboard would be ideal. This boat pops right up on plane (even with 2 adults, 5 small kids and a dog) and handles well.
Here is the steam box I came up with. The basic tool was thrown away by a neighbor, and I added a couple dollars worth of gutter parts. You can steam battens, sheers, chines, clams, crabs, & shrimp. Works good as a turkey fryer too!
Add a downspout, and stick the front end of the batten in there. Stuff the hole with a rag. Works exceptionally well on White Oak. I got the batten lying in shape and it can be moved around for final curve with two fingers.
Here is a pic of the project covered up for Hurricane Frances. We had rain blowing from stern-to-stem and I am in coastal Georgia!!! The storm was in Florida at the time. Notice in the pic of the batten under the plastic, it is lying in curved shape.
TNT Ken & Karen, 13 August: "I started my TNT
on 1/15/04 and have just finished it."
Monte Carlo Tom Phillips, 16 August: "OK IT
WORKS!!!! Now back in the shop and to work on the deck and
interior!!!"
Scull Boat John McGovern, 16 August: "I took the
boat out on its maiden voyage today, it was great."
Malahini Doug Hodder, 19 August: "What a ride!! I
can't believe how this boat corners."
Glen-L 13 Jim Morris, 30 August: "It gets more
enjoyable each time..."
Console Skiff Dan Hehn, 30 August: "The boat
performed very well. In fact, I can't think of any area where I was
disappointed."
Eight Ball-SG Ray Boller, 5 Sep: "This boat
attracts attention and smiles everywhere I go."
Pee Wee Scott Gaskell, 6 Sep: "I gladly tell
everyone who asks that she is a Glen-L design..."
25 Aug 2004
I have some some 20 odd photos of my Bassboat for
you, which I will be sending over the next few days as my time at work allows.
I don't have any time at home to send them because my "home" time
is all divided between building the boat... and fishing.
But let me start from this. I HATE SANDING!!!!
OK, maybe I should start at the beginning.
It all started a few years back. I was looking for something I could do with my son and decided to try fishing. Well, he likes fishing to a point, but my wife and I... I guess there is no other way to say this - we got hooked.
The first season, it was fishing from the bank and a small inflatable. Next, we moved up in the world and bought a small 9' 4" vinyl bass boat (not bad actually). But soon we realized that we were spending all of our free time on the water, it made sense to get real boat... there is a lot of water in the Poconos. But at around $15 to $20 K, a new boat was way out of my reach. I started looking on the Internet for a used boat, since locally even beaters are expensive. That's when I came across some pictures of a boat someone had built in his garage. Yea, right. This guy is full of.... wait a minute, he actually did it.
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted on Monday,
September 13, 2004
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name: Jack Slocombe
Comments: My wife and I purchased the prototype "Lo Voltage" electric boat. We could not be happier. The design is excellent and the boat handles beautifully. An ideal boat for up to 4 adults.
From: E. Anderson (old guy building boats)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004
Know you've been dying to know how the TUBBY TUG is coming along. Well maybe not dying to know but curious? No? Don't care? Whatever.. Here she is with all construction finished and the first of two prime coats applied. Now for another primer and then 3 coats of finished paint. Cabin will probably be red with blue top and hull is finished except for a little "touch up".
That monstrosity on the bench is the cabin that will fit in once the final paint is applied. Easier to do out there then on the boat.
Then what? Who knows.
Cap't sea legs
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted on Thursday,
September 9, 2004
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name: Jack Ridinger
Comments: Great site.
Getting ready to order the plans for the Power YAK. Stress Reliever type work.
I'm a police Capt. 26 YRs. Need this therapy.
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted on Wednesday,
September 1, 2004
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name: Mark Ortiz
Comments: To the glen-l company
I was elated when I discovered I was spelling your name wrong, found out the
correct spelling, then found your web site. To find you guys were still in
business, I could not believe it. Boy was I happy, and let me tell you why. I
own a 1957 Glen-L Hot Rod that I bought about 6 years ago. I love that freaking
boat. It has the original trailer. The boat was built by a well know master
mechanic hot rod builder in Antioch Calif. The boat at the time was running a
high performance flat straight eight engine in 1958. The guy I bought it from
told me the boat was in some movie that Elvis Presley starred in back in 1959
or 60. I'm guessing the year. The Hot Rod is running a 400 Pontiac Grand
Prix motor today, which is being rebuilt right now. I'm so glad you guys
are still going strong...
Thanks a lot. Mark Ortiz
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004, Jean Savard wrote:
I am building a "Double Eagle". I plan to install a 90 hp Honda
outboard, weighing 373 lbs, or a 115 hp, weighing 496 lbs. Is the 115 hp
outboard too heavy for my boat?
I am wondering why the "Double Eagle" which is longer and displaces
more than the 22 ft "Eagle" can take a maximum of 325 lb outboard,
compared to the "Eagle" which can take a 450 lb outboard.
Regards,
Jean Savard.
ANSWER
The weight of the motor has to do with the balance of the boat. This could be
affected by hull shape, cabin size, weight and location of other components.
Minor differences in balance are not critical, but large differences could
cause porpoising or other unpleasant ride characteristics.
The Honda should probably not be a problem, but may require some minor weight
shifting.
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted on Tuesday,
August 31, 2004
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name: Jack O'Sullivan
Comments: around 1967 i built the stilleto sk. it ran about 55 mph with a 100 Merc. we loved it.
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted on Friday,
August 13, 2004
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name: Dr. Norman Cove
Comments: I have already built two Glen L Boats. Both were a great success and
the building was very straight forward.
I have recommended your plans for over 40 years.
I look forward to building Eight Ball soon.
Norman Cove
Nassau
Bahamas.
16 August 2004
Thank you for the comments, I built in the UK about 1959.. Tiny Might. Your
plans called for a Ford V8 flat head (alloy I think) with V-drive. I used an
in-line English Ford 1700 cc, straight drive... no gear box... it was a bit
hairy having a rotating shaft beside ones left elbow. It went like H... and was
a thrill to drive. Left her there when I emigrated to the Bahamas.
I built a 23' Key West centre console runabout about 1980. a great boat too...
I wish to build the Eight Ball as a dingy for my 1947 50' Huckins Fairform Flyer.
I'm sorry to say I don't have any photos, but will definitely make some of 8 Ball.
Best Regards,
Norman
Subject: Re: What boat is it?
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004
Dear sir:
The boat is a Glen-L 21, a 21' Fin Keel Sloop on page 38 in my
catalog.
Thanks, Chuck
For being the first (and only) person to answer the question in the last WebLetter, we are sending Chuck a beautiful Glen-L T-shirt. ...Gayle
Subject: Kentucky River Article
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2004
From: ken schott
Barry: I read the article on the Kentucky River in the WebLetter. You
don't realize the memories that brought back to me.
As a kid, I grew up on the Indiana bank of the Ohio River across from
Louisville, KY. Our immediate neighbor was a yard building steel hull Yachts.
When I was about 10 yrs old, we (parents & neighbors & friends) took
that trip up the Kentucky River. We had 2 steel hull boats, one was a power
converted Shantyboat, the other was a 50' yacht. I remember those steep
cliffs, which we called the 'Palacades', as well as going thru the
locks. The locks were sooo scary to a young kid, we were all under the depth of
the water it seemed.
Exiting one of the locks, going upriver, our boat ingested trash and got hot.
We headed for the bank in an emergency, with the spillway still roaring. The
heat cracked the manifolds and we were dead on the bank. I remember the roar of
the spillway as we stayed tied to the bank, with the engine cooked. The dads
(skippers) lashed the 2 boats together and got going upriver to the next city,
where parts were obtained. Quite an exciting trip all in all.
We did the trip in the autumn, so the fall colors were awesome. Kids usually
don't get excited about things like the fall colors, but nothing since has
topped that trip.
Ken.